To eBay or not to eBay? That is the question.

Apologies to William Shakespeare, but after the winter and spring of discontent comes the summer of reflection. It appears many eBay sellers are seriously questioning whether they should continue using the company’s sites, and those questions are not related solely to fees, but a growing awareness of the dirty tricks being played on them.

One seller has written to me, and I quote them below with identifying data changed to generic information -

I usually have 500-600 store format listings running at any one time. The prices range from around 100, nickel-&-dime multi-item listings (to help with total items sold counts), through several hundred listings in the site-wide ASP range of $10 - $30, up to items running in the hundreds of dollars. This has always been a good mix for generating both revenue and PowerSeller status.

Back in January it was announced that from the summer, stores format on eBay.com and eBay.ca would have introduced a minimum per item price of $1 and I mentally noted it, but it then took so long to arrive that I forgot about it because no reminders were issued.

Now, weeks after it was put into force, I find that many of my sub-$1 store-items are still auto-relisting according to Selling Manager Pro (SMP), and according to my Seller Account, I’m still being invoiced the insertion fees, but those US & CA listings are not visible anywhere on any of the sites to buyers - they are only visible within SMP, which had caused me to believe they are live on the site for buyers to find. I stress this only affects store items under $1.00 price per item.

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eBay CA & US announce mirrored Cheap Listing Fortnight

Both North American eBays - Canada and the USA - have announced two weeks of cheap listing fees for fixed price listings.

On both sites from July 16th to July 29th (inclusive), insertion fees for Fixed Price (FP or BIN) lisitngs are fixed at $0.25 in all price tranches.  Listing upgrade fees and other options, including final value fees still apply.  Some Business and industrial categories are not included.

The announcements don’t state if multi-item listings are permitted, though they usually are on these sites’ promotion days.  Try a test listing to find out.

Unusually, the Canadian offer applies to non-residents, something the site has frequently disallowed in past years, but has been opening up to more frequently in 2008.

If you’re outside the US or Canada - watch the eBay exchange rate daily for your currency against the $ - eBay UK updates their exchange rate around 11am during BST, and it is now diverging rapidly from the exchange rate used by PayPal - even though they are both supposed to pull the rate from XE.com

The weak US dollar means that as long as eBay UK are exchanging at under 50-pence to the UK Pound, UK sellers will benefit from rounding down and save an extra 1-2 cents per listing.  Watch you Seller Account daily billing to see where the exchange rate is at.  (I’m betting that exchange rates on eBay will move counter-intuitively to the money markets for the next fortnight, and bump the dollar over 50-pence for better fee receipts for dot com).

Ed

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Canada Post creates Irregular Letters - just for eBay?

Canada post have provided eBay with a lengthy announcement relating to a new classification for certain lettermail items deemed “Irregular” due to their size or shape.

Essentially, the new classification relates to non-flexible items between 10mm and 20mm thick, with “box-like” corners.

Full details can be found in the full Canada Post announcement in the BuildaSkill Global Post Offices Forum board (login required) with links to all the relevant info pages on the Canada Post website.

Ed

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Will eBay’s IVF cure the patient?

What was free is now available again for a fee.

At least that’s the word from eBay USA and UK, but not what seller’s are experiencing.

Sellers on both sides of the Atlantic are reporting their sites refusing to accept the international visiblity option, listings being cancelled because of adding it, and eBay refusing fee refunds when that happens.  Turbo Lister updates failed to include the new feature, and not every category or seller is allowed to use it.  Just a few of the complaints ringing in eBay’s ears right now.

ebayivfsaline.jpgWednesday’s announcement from the US detailing the new International Visibility Fee ((IVF) - yes, I know, eBay call it International Site Visibility, but ISV is not as memorable is it? :twisted:) appears to have not lived up to what was promised, and failed to appear in Turbo Lister updates on time.  Rodney from eBay Canada, and one of the architects of IVF, stated -

As mentioned earlier, Turbo Lister support for the International Site Visibility feature upgrade is not yet available.  It was expected to be supported after this week’s TL update, so we’re currently investigating why it is not yet showing up.”

A similar situation was evidenced in the UK, with threads appearing all over the forums (including the PowerSeller board) complaining of a broken system, and sellers being told all their IVF-including listings were cancelled for not being relevant to eBay Motors, when listing anywhere that was not eBay Motors.  Worse still, UK sellers were being auto-messaged that their insertion fees would not be refunded on those same listings.  Ermm … eBay’s mistake and sellers will not be refunded for it?   UK sellers please bookmark these links -

Can you tell I’m getting sick and tired of eBay’s arrogant and bullying imposition of unfair rules and policies? :wink:

Meanwhile official eBay announcements, and explanations in forums and workshops from eBay staff and “Pinks”, continue to treat the subject of international visibility as if it’s something that has just been introduced for the first time ever on eBay. 

Fanfares, hype, and lauding the wisdom of those who thought of it, simply turns my stomach when I think that only 14 months ago, UK listings automatically displayed on EVERY eBay site, without paying extra fees.  In fact, 14 months ago, listings on eBay.com were the only ones that did not have full global visibility.  I guess this is another sign that Americans think the world stops at their border?  Rubbing salt in the wounds, Architect Rodney from eBay Canada openly bragged -

“Of course, Canadian items show up on eBay.com without this fee, and US items show up on eBay.ca, and we’re keen to keep it that way”

In a very brief (and “over-pinked” - were they expecting “noise”?) workshop on eBay.com several useful tips surfaced, as did what I am sure were some unintended revelations concerning eBay UK’s operating procedures …

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eBay UK - Was Free, Now a Fee, from 20 May 2008

“eBay is a Global Marketplace bring buyers and sellers together” has been a corner-stone of the eBay system since the site was founded, but last February the UK and the US became two nations seperated by more than a common language and a big puddle.

When UK sellers raised a cacophony of complaints about plummeting traffic and sales during the first quarter of last year, the then Head of Search & Finding stated he didn’t know why.  Within a few weeks he was blaming Google for changing their algorithms, then came clean with an announcement that trans-Atlantic visibility had been chopped due to the UK flooding the US marketplace on Cheap Listing days.

richard-ambrose.jpgA few months after the chop, that same eBay executive, who became Head of Trust and Safety, finally admitted that he’d been instrumental in the trans-Atlantic visibility cut (and had therefore been lying to eBay’s paying customers all along) - so much for Trust, and the Safety of Seller’s rights under False and Misleading Advertising laws.  Even up to March this year, he was still making inaccurate & seller-infuriating comments regarding cross-border visibility; statements that got him shot down in eBay discussion boards, and the shooters banned from using those boards again.

Throughout that saga, myself and others continually cautioned that the prolongued and pointless “testing”, and the placebos of limited-category visibility re-introductions, were just the sweetening of the bitter pill - that sellers would have to pay for trans-Atlantic (and other cross border) visibility being returned, in the manner being used on eBay India

This was confirmed at the end of March by Stephanie Tilenius, Head of Global Marketplace Operations, after I “outed” the fee by stealth introduced onto eBay Canada.

Now, eBay UK are the first to rush this increase in fees to market, with Friday’s announcement that it will be introduced from tomorrow (20th May) - not a lot of time to upgrade your listings … if you’re the type of seller that likes lining eBay’s coffers.

Ed

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eBay Global New Feedback 3.0 Policy Announced

eBay’s Director of Global Feedback Policy has released the announcement everyone’s been waiting for.

There are some minor concessions to the concerns of all eBay sellers, and a few “extras” for PowerSellers, but the big problem is to remain in place - sellers will only be able to leave positive feedback for buyers.

Read the full announcement here, and please discuss your opinions in our forums, or add comments to this blog post.

eBay UK have also released their own version of it, and I’m still scrutinising for the exact and implied variations from the Global Policy - with the current UK head of Trust & Safety having constantly expressed the opinion that all sellers are scammers and con-artists (in eBay forums) I just know he’s going to have removed some of the good stuff.

I’ll post again when I’ve identified the differences between the Global & UK policies.

Ed

Update - the US announcement is in, also written by Brian Burke, with slight variations compared to the Canadian announcement above.  It also includes bad news for Half.com sellers, which was not in the Canadian announcement.  This seems to indicate the Global policy will be open to local interpretation and modification on each eBay site - and that’s a major source of concern, especially for UK sellers given the over-zealous whipping that they’ve been getting from the management in Richmond.

The Australian announcement has also arrived, with the same key points, but laid out differently and with a different implementation date (12th May instead of 15th May).  To be expected really given the differences eBay Oz have implemented concerning use of PayPal-only, and the PayPal Seller Protection Policy variations compared to the rest of eBay.

Singapore’s announcement is also in with implementation from May 21st - and worryingly, it clearly omits the criteria for removing feedback if the buyer does not call out seller performance in an unpaid item dispute.  Effectively this means a buyer can still leave a nonsense reply in the UPI dispute and their feedback will not be removed.  This is a clear indicator that the “global” policy is up for local interpretation and modification.

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eBay continues nibbling at sellers’ VFM

Several new announcements from eBay in the last 24 hours demonstrate a continual nibbling away at the Value For Money (VFM) sellers get from the sites.

The most marked is on eBay Canada, which BuildaSkill revealed a month ago as having snuck a new fee under the radar.  Now, despite having gouged the extra fee for what was once free, it has been revealed that the payers of the new fee will be disadvantaged in Search & Browse as Canada rejigs Best Match to give priority to domestic listings.  The fact the announcement only appeared on the Canadian site means nothing - As we revealed days ahead of any official announcement, the new fee would become de facto in eBay land, and thus we expect this disadvantaging of “foreign listings” to also become de facto on eBay sites worldwide.  eBay has, for the last year or more, been trying to reduce the international leverage that sellers have on the platform, this appears to be “xenophobeBay” beta 2.0

On the opposite side of the planet, the rapidly emptying eBay.com.au has struck a deal with Drive.com.au whereby the listings of both sites will appear on each others platforms.  As a result eBay have launched a beta platform to display the combined listings (cars2.ebay.com.au)  and have left me wondering about how the drive.com.au sellers will feel if faced with being forced to accept PayPal only (and PayPal’s fee) if an eBay buyer wins their motor through the new joint interface?  It also leaves me wondering about the contractual & legal sides if drive.com.au has no PayPal-only enforcement in it’s user agreement. 

The increased competition on a rapidly shrinking site (as both buyers and sellers abandon eBay in favour of Oztion) does eBay’s existing customers no favours either.

Ed

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eBay Competitors Need to Ramp-up Their Game Plans

eBay appear to have rolled out the 18-inch naval guns to shoot their own feet again.

This month sees the switch from being reliant on Commission Junction (CJ) for management of their Affiliate Marketing scheme, to taking it in-house with the eBay Partner Network.  Last month’s announcement was full of hype and spin about improved benefits and flexibility for affiliates, but already long-standing CJ members are complaining of being refused admission to the new Partner Network.

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Universally, those refused membership appear to be marketers who are also eBay sellers that at some point have crossed swords with eBay, and been labelled “bad boys & girls”.  This includes sellers and PowerSellers who have disagreed with eBay staff in the eBay forums, then been “sanctioned” (banned from posting in forum) by eBay’s 3rd-party forum moderators “LiveWorld”, through to marketers whom eBay regards as having either competing or “eBay-unfriendly” websites. 

Additionally, “good” marketers whose status of registration falls under “3rd-location” residency are being denied entry to the Partner Network.  These are affiliates who have business and banking registration in one country, but reside and operate in another.  One would think eBay would be thoroughly comfortable with this concept, especially with all their European subsidiaries owned and financially managed from a holding company in Luxembourg, but nope, what’s good for the goose is not good enough for the ganders.  Swathes of ongoing CJ affiliate marketers are being locked out of the eBay Partner Network.

All of which creates a chasm of opportunity for eBay’s competitors, but which, based on historical evidence, few are likely to grab …

The thing I’ve noticed about online sales venues is that mostly they break the mould of traditional income:expense financial modelling.  It’s a peculiarity of the Internet.  Apart from eBay, most of the long standing competition are those with “effectively free to list” fee models.  It’s the ones who jumped straight in with across-the-board fees in place, that have disappeared, and it’s the ones who embraced affiliate marketing that have most benefitted in recent years.

The most successful and long-standing eBay competitors are those that eschewed listing fees in favour of success fees, however, with one exception, they mostly have suffered from site names that are not memorable, and in the case of the exception, their name is too close to eBay’s, and I’m sure that’s damaged them in marketing with message-receivers diverting to the larger site due to household-name syndrome.

Another area that has caused slower growth in the smaller sites individually, seems to be that most of them are founded by technicians, not marketeers.  By this I mean they seem to spend too much of the growth phase focussing on the site features and structure, and not enough on getting the message out to would-be users.  TazBar seemed to break that mould, but I think they mistimed.

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If TazBar had not launched in mid-2006 (on the back of the “shops in core” debacle on eBay) they could have aimed for a more propitious launch-point, which may have gained them more sustainable initial momentum.  As it was, there is an underlying thinking that TazBar was yet another angst-competitor similar to the many we’ve seen launch since late January this year.  The very fact they seem to be “doing an eBay” causes support for that line of thinking.  There is little to differentiate them from eBay, and a lot of that must lie with the founders’ origins in ecommerce (being all ex-eBay powersellers).

eBay competitors need Unique Selling Points to differentiate themselves - here’s some examples -

Niche sites

delcampe.com logodelCampe - Philately and postal memorabilia only.  By far eBay’s largest competitor in this field, and actually far bigger than eBay in it.  Unlike eBay, they leave it to sellers to choose if they want to be seen across all sites, or only on their home site, and this without an International Listing Visibility Fee.

Etsy - Crafts and handmade items - rapidly overtaking eBay in this product area, but becoming a little image-conscious in the buyer complaints arena.  They seem to be becoming a little too influenced by eBay policies in failing to allow buyers to take responsibility for the buyers’ own decisions, and have been reported lately as punishing sellers for buyers unwillingness to exercise due diligence when purchasing, and for buyer-impatience regarding shipping conditions clearly laid out by sellers, that the buyers refuse to read or comprehend.

WargamesMarket - has “stolen” 90%+ of eBay’s sellers (and listings) and is growing rapidly with buyers - they founded within the last year and have already destroyed eBay’s marketplace for these products.  (average UK list count in (one example) 15mm tabletop down from 7000+ daily average, to 600-700 daily average).  Also, they are doing what eBay was never able to do - they are pulling the home-industry wargames manufacturers into trading online (other than on their own websites), and are receiving approval, and listings, from the larger, international, wargames companies too.

Non-Niche

eBid - Lifetime memberships and free multiple shop identities per seller account, with automatic cross promotion between the shops.  Something eBay have been asked for, for years and have failed to provide.  Also, each listing is available on all sites by default if the seller selects this - something eBay used to offer, but is rapidly removing in order to gouge yet more fees.   Additionally, sellers have a much more detailed choice of which countries they will and will not ship to - they can exclude the notoriously bad Italian market while keeping other European countries for example. 

eBid has always been held back by lack of a good, offline listing tool, now it’s under development, eBay should be very concerned and look again at their business model.  Tazbar (and others) could be finished off when that eBid tool goes live, leaving eBay UK with a single, focussed, general auctions competitor, and a far bigger threat because of it.

Amazon UKAmazon - no chargeback risks to sellers, multiple account types to fit most sellers business models, universal presentation style for the company’s own products and 3rd party sellers’ products provides a unified image, with most buyers not differentiating between Amazon stock and 3rd party stock.  One monthly subscription option with no further up-front fees (ideal for volume listers).  It’s no wonder that Amazon have been capturing eBay market share (and buyers & sellers) hand over fist recently.

At the end of the day, Amazon’s model is a little different to all the others - Amazon itself trades product on its site, in competition with its 3rd party sellers, and that doesn’t harm them.  eBay, TazBar, et al, could be doing the same - they could leverage marketing muscle and market position by taking up with (for example) software companies on a drop-shipping basis.  The profits from such trading could be used to stall fees growth, or even to partly offset fees and cause a reduction in them.  I suspect that currently, both etsy and wargames market are doing similar - they’re both enthusiast marketplaces and for the owners to get into them, they must have an interest in the sector’s products and be trading them, though whether on the owners’ accounts, or on the sites’ accounts is another story.

It’s impossible for any non-global (and by global I mean the likes of Yahoo, Virgin, Microsoft et al) to create a start-up to take on eBay head-to-head.  What they’ll all do is nibble at the edges, fragmenting and diluting the marketplace, and causing even more panic reactions (fee increases and seller punishments) from eBay.  I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, new entrants MUST go niche.  They cannot succeed with a general marketplace against eBay.  It’s too late to attempt that, and they’d be better off supporting the existing players if they want to go down that route.

The likes of TazBar, CQout, QXL etc fall into what I refer to as 3rd tier markets.  Right now, there are very few 2nd tier players - eBid is just edging into it this year, OLA in the USA have just entered it, and there are a couple of others, mainly in the USA.  Up in the first tier it’s eBay vs Amazon and that’s it.

However, the more that eBay continues to segregate its national marketplaces, the greater the risk of each dropping from 1st tier to 2nd tier or lower (most of its Asian markets are actually 3rd tier on their own, and only get 1st or 2nd tier ranking due to the global identity of the parent).  When looking at individual eBay countries, only the UK, US, and Germany are tier 1.  Many of the others, including Canada and Australia are tier 3.  Tiny little Belgium, is actually a bigger market than France right now, and both of those are still tier 3, about on a par with TazBar - way smaller than eBid.

eBay New Zealand was effectively killed off and shut down, several years ago, by independant all-categories auction site TradeMe.co.nz - however, TradeMe pulled a lot of revenue from online dating and property location services integrated to the site (there’s that niche angle again).  eBay never did get more than a little finger into the NZ market and ended up pulling their site, keeping only a portal there that redirects into the US site.  Australia is in serious danger of going the same way due to the avalanche of competitor sites opening up down under, especially the reverse-auction sites (where buyers pay to place a bid, but it’s the lowest bid that wins - the site then shares the buyer fees with the seller), but Oz is too valuable a test bed for eBay - look at all the policies announced there, that I predicted would go global, then did so.

I still feel TazBar is still trying to be too much “same same” as eBay, and that they’re going the same way with fees too.  They don’t have the membership mass, or momentum, to be “doing an eBay” - and if they don’t take care, they never will.   This is the opposite of eBid’s free-to-list strategy, and it shows when comparing growth between the two sites.

In my book, TazBar should try a brave move such as cutting back fees now (to gain growth and momentum) but announce (for example) a five-year plan for fee introductions/increases, and stick to it.  That way, they can attract memberships, build volume and trade, gather fees at future points that sellers can plan for, and avoid the “greedbay” tagging that the big site generates.

For several years, eBid have offered an affiliate program via ClixGalore, which has been very much an on-off-on again one.  Very recently they bit the bullet and began offering affiliates a higher share of the revenue from CPA adverts via the Google Adsense Referrals program.  It seems to be paying off for them.  The power of marketing replication via an easily accessible affiliate program really does work.  eBay seem to have forgotten that fundamental.

The new eBay Partner Network is not only being extremely picky about who they accept (reducing their marketing network) they also are earning the reputation of requiring affiliates to have active eBay accounts.  Whether this reputation is founded correctly or incorrectly, early online discussions off-eBay are reinforcing this and it will cause a great many CJ affiliate to simply delete eBay from their program list and not bother attempting to join the Partner Network.  This will create large holes in many websites that will be crying out for replacement ads and advertisers.

Now is the time for all af the tier 2 auction sites to make the marketing push to have programs with CJ and fill the voids eBay have created this month.  It is also the time for the larger tier 3 sites to do the same.  Leveraging the marketing multiplication effect of affiliate programs is critical for the smaller sites too. 

In-house marketing and SEO efforts can only go so far.  As some of the newest sites are discovering, personal member blogs in site (similar to eBay myWorld blogs) are essential marketing tools for social networking.  Many continue to rely on member-support forums alone, which is better than nothing, but for those without blogs, an affiliate advertising program is now more essential than ever, to take advantage of eBay’s alienating many of its longest-supporting ad publishers.

Ed

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